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    Artist:     Frantic
    Release: As Dawn came… [demo] (1993)
    Genre:    Technical Speed Metal
    Country: Germany (Holzwickede, North Rhine-Westphalia)
    Bitrate:   cbr256
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    Demo #3, self-released on tape. -- Recorded and mixed at D&S Recording, Hattingen from Nov to Dec 1992.

    Requested by Sanctum.
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    Tracklist:
    01.  Reign of Remains  (07:37)
    02.  A deathlike Sleep  (06:52)
    03.  Kirlian Eyes  (06:02)
    04.  Seize the Day  (06:43)

    RunningWild wrote:Anyone got their Exile Eden demo (1991) or a good rip of Welcome to Paradise (demo 1990)?
    Or maybe cover scans of the (unofficial) 1991 demo? :P
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    RUNNING WILD,you made my day!!!Perfect technical power metal,a criminally underated band!!All their demos are the top thing!!! I used to read about them in several underground publications back in the 90's, but the last 5-6 years haven't seen anything on them in the internet!!Also equal great Technical metal bands like DEVASTATE,DETERENT,TRANSCENDENCE,DISJECTA MEMBRA haven't grace the web pages of the metal blogs!! Had many of these demos in 2-3 generation copies, but unfortunately aren't near my grip now!This demo delivers ellegant, high I.Q. metal of Top quality, like early DONOR, FLAMING ANGER,early LIFE ARTIST, PAYNE'S GRAY!! The person who will upload other such gems should be decorated!! CHEERS!!! porosimetal

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    No. Don't have a scan yet.
    Just the word of a friend who has the demo original and this Musik Sammler link.
    My mp3 file which i have more than 10 years now (was tagged with 1992/1993 - ? and this opens to both ways - but without a scan, i couldn't know for sure and i suspect that the cover doesn't have the year anywhere explicit)
    There's plenty of mistakes on Metal Archives which i don't wish to do nothing there anymore.
    Some years ago i gave lots of prooves to friends who cared about ranks etc. and they were correcting everything there.

    I think i'm the responsable for Amethyst (UK) still being there.
    There was a time that only the single was there submitted and suddenly that lithuanian fellow that collects vinyl stated the single and band should be deleted for being like Bon Jovi (this, after the band being kind to offer him the single for free without any mail costs even).
    As i don't like ungrateful bastards - i interventioned as a normal user and said that some of the demos had plenty of british metal and the older tapes can be described as NWOBHM mixed with Hard-Rock. It happens i'm friend of the band as well, i also got a free single and all their demography and even live recordings and i know a lot about the band and why isn't still on a CD Anthology released by 1 of the usual labels.

    Don't forget, i also uploaded to T-Mag in July of 2010 a Frantic unknown Demo with no titles. I got it this way on tape on the old days of trading.
    So, just guessing i know a bit more about the band than most people.

    Normally Musik Sammler is 1 of the fave sites for german collectors and most of them are pretty serious.

    Since you live a lot of your life for Metal Archives do you wish to correct something there ? Then, correct that stupid year for ENFORCER (US/New Mexico) - "Cry For The Stranger". It's not from 1987. It's from 1991. And please don't ask me prooves.

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    Thanks man ! Now it's obvious ! (hehe)

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    I can share this demo in lossless. Who is interested in contacting
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    Our moderator corrected Metal Archives but forgot to correct his post here....

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    He will correct it also here soon, let's give him a few time ;)
    (beerbang)

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    Metalhuhn wrote:

    Thanks man ! Now it's obvious ! (hehe)
    Thanks Tony. (YDY)
    Now it´s obvious to be a 1993 release, recorded Nov-Dec 1992.


    Metalhuhn wrote:No. Don't have a scan yet.
    Just the word of a friend who has the demo original and this Musik Sammler link.
    My mp3 file which i have more than 10 years now (was tagged with 1992/1993 - ? and this opens to both ways - but without a scan, i couldn't know for sure and i suspect that the cover doesn't have the year anywhere explicit)
    There's plenty of mistakes on Metal Archives…
    So, just guessing i know a bit more about the band than most people.
    You really think so? - Guess you either mixed up recording and release date (like many ppl do) or you were pretty wrong on this demo.

    Metalhuhn wrote:correct that stupid year for ENFORCER (US/New Mexico) - "Cry For The Stranger". It's not from 1987. It's from 1991. And please don't ask me prooves.
    I believe your superior knowledge in Metal, so for sure this Cry for the Stranger demo was made in 1991 (just fixed this in my own database).
    But since it´s not my entry and without proof, there´s nothing I can do.
    Get us a scan, magazine interview or review and I´ll be very glad to change it.
    Or just wait (like me)… and the truth will show up some time - believe me. ;)

    Metalhuhn wrote:Normally Musik Sammler is 1 of the fave sites for german collectors and most of them are pretty serious.
    So is Metal Archives!
    Imo it´s the most reliable metal site simply because it´s the most visited and common one.
    Thus self-regulation does the trick: If one states nonsense two others will come up and blame it.
    Works out very fine for sites like Wikipedia, so it does for M-A.

    I don´t deny that there are a few mistakes, but in terms of number of bands and releases, they´re negligible.
    Love or hate M-A, it´s the most complete information resource in Metal (or tell me another one) and it does not change anything if there are some arrogant assholes working over there, the majority are good & reliable guys…

     

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    Sorry RunningWild, I thought that "1992" on the tape label was the year of the release, but if you're sure it was recorded in Nov./Dec. '92 and released early 1993, I trust your words (wink)
    This is one of those cases I'd like to say (to myself, above all!): Demo 1992/1993 (hehe)

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    This is enough for me, for my friend who owns the tape and for muzik sammler - http://i63.tinypic.com/k4tr1z.jpg

    As i said before, i don't care much about the data or information on Metal Archives.
    I trust much more on the information on several other sites like for example :

    http://nwobhm.com/

    http://www.fwoshm.com/index/B?start=60

    https://www.underground-empire.com/history.php

    former metalpage.de (now on Corroseum)

    http://france.metal.museum.free.fr/

    several Discogs users

    several collectors who use social networks

    and the list keeps going....
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    If this is enough for you, I´m fine with it. It´s your point of view.
    For me this is just a sloppy look, cause all I see is "(c) 1992" printed on the tape labels.
    But it neglects the fact the recording took place Nov to Dec 92, and the band states they finished in 1993 on the front cover.
    https://i.imgur.com/x8GJpbM.jpg

    See, that´s what I meant - you always need a proof to be sure.
    I believe my eyes and I don´t try to be smarter than the band, knowing everything better than them.

    The release date is what´s requested at M-A (in case you give it a closer look). (wink)

    Don´t always mix up recording date and release date.
    Even if they gave the plain tape to friends or magazines to review it in Dec 1992, it´s still released in 1993.
    Of course your friend might got this in Dec 1992 (so everything true what you said), maybe even the band considers this a Dec 2012 release as their part was finished and they just needed to wait for the printing house. But all that does not matter. It was officially released in 1993, they stated it.

    Looks like your sloppy point of view makes up the troubles you have with M-A…
    It´s not "I know this", "I know that" - an encyclopedia has to be fact-based.

    And it´s a database of releases (not of bands), that´s what so many metalheads don´t want to understand… :S

     

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    It seems there's a print error here.
    The labels state 1992
    and the cover states 1993.

    The recording took place in Nov + Dec of 1992
    then there were still a few days of Dec to release it in 1992.

    And what about the Exile Eden demo ?
    (September 1991)

    and the 6th track in fact the title is - "Blaculla".

    The fact and my sloppy way to see stupid Metal Archives is them deleting Rankelson (for having too much Hard-Rock on their sound)
    and replacing it for the "Mega-Metal" band of Mortiis.
    (and this is just 1 example of M.A. accurate facts)
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    RunningWild wrote:Anyone got their Exile Eden demo (1991) or a good rip of Welcome to Paradise (demo 1990)?
    Or maybe cover scans of the (unofficial) 1991 demo? :P

    porosimetal posted these demos here

    Frantic (Ger) - Welcome to Paradise [Demo] (1990)
    viewtopic.php?f=45&t=43625

    Frantic (Ger) - Exile Eden [Demo] (1991)
    viewtopic.php?f=45&t=43624

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    off topic, just a sidenote:

    Metalhuhn wrote:correct that stupid year for ENFORCER (US/New Mexico) - "Cry For The Stranger". It's not from 1987. It's from 1991. And please don't ask me prooves.

    RunningWild wrote:I believe your superior knowledge in Metal, so for sure this Cry for the Stranger demo was made in 1991 (just fixed this in my own database).
    But since it´s not my entry and without proof, there´s nothing I can do.
    Get us a scan, magazine interview or review and I´ll be very glad to change it.
    Or just wait (like me)… and the truth will show up some time - believe me. ;)


    Hey Metalhuhn, I told you this would happen, I knew it.
    M-A user Dr_Keloid added this with full tracklist and cover scan.
    Enforcer (USA-NM) - Cry for the Stranger [demo] (1991)

     

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