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    Jason (jasonkont) & I thought it would be a nice idea to open a new topic with pre-WASP and early Wasp material featuring the bands that ultimately leaded up to WASP as one of the big bands. Lot’s of material is scattered over the net (or lost due to the Mega-upload debacle).

    Most are the same songs (but if you listen at them closely you will find 3-4 alternative versions of the same song because of the different rips, bitrates and because bands recorded the same songs over and over again with different line-ups so it's a complete mess. Any help in clustering them is appreciated.

    I start with the material I have and Jason will add. If any of you has more or different early material / info please add to the topic. The Meatl Archives aren’t much help as most of the recordings here are not even listed.

    Killer Kane
    Band Members Arthur Kane - Bass, Vocals
    (Blackie Goozeman - nickname Blackie Lawless) - Guitar, Lead Vocals
    Andy Jay - Lead Guitar, Vocals
    Jimi Image - Drums, Vocals

    Killer Kane were started by Arthur 'Killer' Kane in 1975 and had an EP released in 1976. The band members included W.A.S.P vocalist Blackie Lawless. With the Mr. Cool EP being the only one released from the band, they soon died out, however many die hard W.A.S.P fans have been trying to get this as this song was replicated by W.A.S.P on the Last Command album later on. Listed as: Killer Kane Band Mr Cool // Longhaired Woman // I Don't Need You 7" Whiplash EP200, 1976 PS A slow brooding monster. 'Mr. Cool' is an early version of 'Cries in the Night' off the Last Command
    album and was originally recorded with the Killer Kane band, featuring Blackie as Blackie Goozeman and Arthur Kane, both formerly of the New York Dolls.

    Here's two track now: Longhaired woman and I Don't need You

    I seem to miss out on the Mr Cool. I'm sure Jason will upload the complete EP soon and then I will update the link.
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    Sister
    Sister was an American Heavy Metal band, formed in Los Angeles in 1976. Sister is notable for having members such as Blackie Lawless (WASP), and Nikki Sixx (Motley Crue) within the lineup. The band could be thought of as an early incarnation of WASP; they thrived on dark/occult imagery and utilized similar shock rock techniques (apparently Blackie would eat worms on stage to draw reactions from the audience) to WASP. They were the first band to use the Pentagram as a symbol onstage, a gimmick which would be mimicked by many bands to follow. They recorded a few songs but broke up by 1978. The Sister song "Don't Know What I Am" is featured in part in the WASP song "Titanic Overture". Randy Piper (WASP) and Lizzie Grey (London) were both members of Sister at some point. Blackie stays in contact with Jimi Image and creates SISTER around 1977, along with the bassist Joey and as first guitarist of SISTER was Randy Shaltz.

    After of awhile with this line up, Blackie decides to replace the guitarist Randy Shaltz, and begins the search of a new member, around 1977 Blackie lives in Hollywood in a place that was next to where the members of band THE MOTELS live, the guitarist of band THE MOTELS saw a peculiar announcement magazine porno HUSTLER , was on a called guitarist Chris Holmes, the guitarist of THE MOTELS show him a unit of magazine HUSTLER to Blackie, where Chris appeared naked putting in a called section "BEAVER HUNT", this section contained in its majority announcements with photos of women naked, being the only man announced in this section Chris put as title: "One For The Ladies" along with the mention "Rock ' N' Roll Animal" in the announcement mentioned that he play the guitar, Blackie decides to contact it because the guitarist of the THE MOTELS had commented to him that he recognized to Chris because he was a friend of a friend of him, reason why it contacts Chris, it does an audition and it decides to unite it to the project.

    For 1978 the SISTER line up was Blackie that adopts the name that uses until the present time "Blackie Lawless", Joey, Jimi Image and Chris Holmes, but this line up returns to change then Blackie Lawless decides to replace to Chris Holmes by Randy Piper, by the band they would also pass Lizzie Grey & Nikki Sixx who still did not have changed his name and at that time was called only by his name: Frank Ferrana.

    SISTER for that time not make much noise because were a bad time for heavy metal bands, because they were not attractive for the record companies at the end of 70's, the band record a 8 tracks demo in South Bay, they spend 3 days to make the recordings, and Blackie wasn't happy with the results, Nikki Sixx who had taken part in these recordings is fired, after a time Lizzie Grey also leaves the band.

    Unknown year:
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    Tracks: I Don't know What I Am (4 different versions), 80's Ladies, Sweet Dreams (3 different versions), Mr Cool (2 different versions)

    1978:
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    Tracks: Sex Dreams (Master of Disaster), Sex Drive, What I Am, Sweet Disease, The Torture Never Stops, Tormentor

    1979:
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    Sex Drive, Mr. Cool

    Circus Circus
    After disbanding Sister Blackie Lawless formed a band called Circus Circus in 1979, with Piper again appearing in the lineup. This band had a glam rock/metal sound and image. The band did a few performances and taped a demo of Mr.Cool (in the future to be WASP's Cries in the night). The band line-up consisted of Blackie Lawless, Randy Piper, Joey Palemo, and Jimmy Image. Blackie shifted from the occult themes in Sister to a colorful circus theme garnished with theatrics such as elephant stands, knife throwing, and Blackie setting himself on fire (theatrics Nikki Sixx would make popular in Motley Crue's early days after Blackie 'gave' him the trick). The band was going nowhere similar to Sister, so they disbanded and Blackie went to join Nikki Sixx and Lizzie Grey in London (Nikki Sixx had left by this time). Below you'll find some old footage of Circus Circus on youtube, enjoy!





    The 1980 demo:
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    Tracks: Sweet Dreams, Star Dancer, Oh What a Dream Girl, Harley Heart

    London
    In 1981, following Circus Circus' failure, Lawless joined Lizzie Grey and Nikki Sixx's band London, with whom he played a few gigs and recorded two songs as demos, though by this time Sixx had already departed to form Mötley Crüe. London was formed in an effort to annoy Rush fans, emulate the debauched spectacle of New York Dolls, and build upon the music of Cheap Trick, Slade, and Love It to Death. The pair were thrilled when Nigel Benjamin, vocalist with last-legs Mott the Hoople, answered a Recycler ad to be London's singer. According to the Mötley autobiography, Dirt, Sixx sent the London demo to hero Brian Connolly of Sweet who told the young deviant to keep his day job: "This kind of music is never going to make it." Sixx immediately departed to form the monstrous Mötley Crüe and prove Connolly wrong. Grey powered through the '80s with London, ruling the Sunset Strip as (reputedly) legends like Izzy Stradlin and Fred Coury (Cinderella) passed through the ranks. London's inclusion in the notorious Decline of Western Civilization Part II: the Metal Years signaled the end of the band. Now an underground legend, Grey went on to form Spiders & Snakes.

    The 1980 demo:
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    Tracks: Nobody Loves You Like I Do, Straight From The Heart, Oh What a Dream Girl

    WASP
    In 1982 Lawless switched to bass guitar and along with Randy Piper formed W.A.S.P.. The lineup was soon completed with Chris Holmes on lead guitar and Tony Richards on drums. Before the richness and fame lots of songs were recorded over and over again.

    The demo recordings:
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    Tracks: Master of Disaster, Show No Mercy, School Daze, Hellion, Animal, Sleeping In The Fire, I Wanna Be Somebody, We're Demolition

    I'll update the topic when new uploads / better recordings are available (keeping everything in one post), while maintaining the reactions, so one can keep track of the chances. Updates will be indicated.

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    (great) Wow, Nico nice work!!! You made this topic even better than I thought!
    First of all I beginning by uploading "Killer Cane - 1976 - Mr. Cool [EP]" in two different vinyl rips (320 & 192 kbp/s) with vinyl scans, photos & info:
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    Nico here is what I have as "London - 1980 - Demo [192]"
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    01. Oh What a Dream Girl - Different version (shorter & better quality from the one you posted above)
    02. Harley Heart (Not posted above)

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    thats cool you separated the tracks into the groupings. I think most of the tracks come from the compilations Incubo put together. Two mistakes, the 1978 Sister demo, last two songs are WASP, the first 4 songs are my tape rip ( I can tell my hiss) , and WASP Demo is a mishmash, We're Demolition is Rick Derringer's track he did for The WWF Tag Team Demolition's entrance theme, Master of Disaster wasnt recorded with the rest ( I think its Sister) and Sleeeping in the Fire wasnt a demo....
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    heres the WASP demos as i received them in 1983 on tape
    Demo 1982
    1) School Daze
    2) Hellion
    3) On Your Knees
    4) BAD
    Demo 1983 ( not sure if really 83 or 82- or if all songs recorded at same time
    5) Show No Mercy
    6) I Wanna Be Somebody
    7) The Torture Never Stops
    8) Tormentor
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    fifis foufoutos wrote:W.A.S.P. is one of my favorite bands!
    Amazing work - Jason and Nico I thank both of you, from the depths of my metallic soul!


    All credits goes to Nico, he had the idea to open this topic with pre-WASP and early WASP recordings. I just helping him addind what I have at my mp3 collection. If anyone here has anything of this pre-WASP era (1976-1984) in better bitrates or rips and want to share it with us feel free to do it!

    So here is what I got as "W.A.S.P. - 1982 - Face the Attack (Demo) [128]" (It circulates also as "Masters Of Disaster - The Early Demos"):
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    1. On Your Knees 05:01
    2. School Daze 04:50
    3. B.A.D. 04:04
    4. Hellion 03:53
    5. Sleeping (In the Fire) 06:52
    6. Master of Disaster 06:00
    7. Sex Drive 03:20
    8. What I Am {MISSING}
    9. Star Dancer {MISSING}
    10. Sweet Dreams 03:20 {MISSING}
    11. Mr. Cool 03:49

    Line-up:

    Blackie Lawless Vocals, Guitars
    Randy Piper Guitars
    Rik Fox Bass
    Tony Richards Drums

    info:
    Tracks 1-6 were recorded by W.A.S.P., track 10 was recorded by Sister, and track 11 was recorded by Circus Circus. Tracks 8 and 9 were recorded sometime between 1979-1982 (the end of Sister and the beginning of W.A.S.P.).

    Rik Fox note:
    "Face the Attack" was not any 'official' name for that demo...it was just my personal choice for my one personal copy of the demo, I should like that clarified to the public. Face the Attack was my own personal cover artwork that I drew on my own cassette flap--that was the one stolen from the car it was in when the car was stolen, and henceforth copied, mass-produced and 'accidentally' come to be known as. That original WASP demo with me on it never had any official name on it whatsoever. - Rik Fox 2011 http://www.fullinbloommusic.com/rikfox.html
    http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/W. ... ck/103518#

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    [quote="strad"]heres the WASP demos as i received them in 1983 on tape
    Demo 1982
    1) School Daze
    2) Hellion
    3) On Your Knees
    4) BAD
    Demo 1983 ( not sure if really 83 or 82- or if all songs recorded at same time
    5) Show No Mercy
    6) I Wanna Be Somebody
    7) The Torture Never Stops
    8) Tormentor
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    This must be "Demo 1983 #2"
    http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/W. ... 23_2/27777
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    Also got:
    W.A.S.P. - 1981? - Demo [320]
    W.A.S.P. - 1982-3 Demos [128]
    W.A.S.P. - W.A.S.P. (1st Album Demo) [320] (only 4 tracks)
    W.A.S.P. - Let The Torture Begin [The Lost Demos 1979 to 1982] [320]
    W.A.S.P. - Winged Assassins (First Album Demo Version) [128]
    W.A.S.P. & Motley Crue Pre-Era [192]
    But I'm not sure for their originality (some are bootleg compilations), so I don't know if I must upload them.

    Anyone got?:
    Demo 1982 Demo 1982
    1. Mr. Cool 04:11
    2. Long Haired Woman 03:52
    3. I Don't Need You 03:08
    4. 80s Ladies 02:54
    5. Sweet Dreams 03:27

    Demo 1983 # 1 Demo 1983
    1. Master of Disaster
    2. Don't Know What I Am
    3. School Daze
    4. Rocktown USA

    The First Album Rehearsal Demos Demo 1984
    1. Show No Mercy
    2. I Wanna Be Somebody
    3. The Torture Never Stops
    4. Tormentor
    5. School Daze
    6. Hellion
    7. On Your Knees
    8. B.A.D.
    9. Paint It Black
    10. Animal (Fuck Like A Beast)

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    jasonkont wrote:
    strad wrote:heres the WASP demos as i received them in 1983 on tape
    Demo 1982
    1) School Daze
    2) Hellion
    3) On Your Knees
    4) BAD
    Demo 1983 ( not sure if really 83 or 82- or if all songs recorded at same time
    5) Show No Mercy
    6) I Wanna Be Somebody
    7) The Torture Never Stops
    8) Tormentor
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    This must be "Demo 1983 #2"
    http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/W. ... 23_2/27777


    that info was from my tapes as they circulated back in the day..... dont trust Metal Archives
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    [quote="strad"]heres the WASP demos as i received them in 1983 on tape
    Demo 1982
    1) School Daze
    2) Hellion
    3) On Your Knees
    4) BAD
    Demo 1983 ( not sure if really 83 or 82- or if all songs recorded at same time
    5) Show No Mercy
    6) I Wanna Be Somebody
    7) The Torture Never Stops
    8) Tormentor
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    I received these as demo 1 & 2 and I believe both are 1983, which I believe had a demo of Sleeping In The Fire, but it was a seperate recording.

    WASP were supposed to put out a boxset last year, and Blackie made the comment that they recorded the 1st album as a demo 3 times before the final version that was released and he said those recordings were heavier than the actual 1st album. I believe Master of Disaster is a WASP song, according to Rik Fox part of it was later used for Wild Child and he co-wrote MoD (Blackie apparently also offered the song to Motley Crue).

    As for Rik Fox.... take everything he says with a grain of salt. I do believe he was a member of WASP/Sister briefly right at the beginning, but Rik is his own biggest fan and if you read his interviews they're always about him and how great he is and how he did this and did that and everyone ripped him off.
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    There's two songs i can't see anyone have posted about yet and that's: Chasing the rainbow and silver rain.
    Chasing the rainbow is a London demo from 1981 with Blackie on vocals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-3ujtOGtPE
    And silver rain is from 1980 by circus circus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl4mOy8lxzQ
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    dfpmglam wrote:WASP
    In 1982 Lawless switched to bass guitar and along with Randy Piper formed W.A.S.P.. The lineup was soon completed with Chris Holmes on lead guitar and Tony Richards on drums. Before the richness and fame lots of songs were recorded over and over again.


    Just an FYI... The 1st line up is Blackie, Randy, Tony and Rik Fox (I see that someone deleted my Rik Fox slag post... complete douche, one of the hardest egomaniacs to try to work with). Rik claims he came up with the name after he stepped on a WASP while he was staying with Blackie after coming out from NY.

    Anyhoo... After Rik leaves, Don Costa comes in at some point, and Randy leaves (supposedly to work at McDonalds..) and Chris Holmes comes in. Don and Tony are both from the band Dante Fox (better known as Great White). At some point in this cluster, Gary Holland comes in and plays drums (also played with Great White at some point) but Tony comes back.

    Don plays I believe 1 or 2 shows w/ W.A.S.P. before there's some backstage altercation between him and Chris and he gets the boot. Don is better known as the fruit who has the cheese grater on the back on his bass who rubs his hand raw and flicks blood at the crowd (you would NEVER get away with that today!). Some how it works out for Don as he gets the gig with Ozzy Osbourne, which lasts until Ozzy has had of enough of his shit and punches him out while on tour. If I remember correctly this is Jake E. Lee's 1st tour with Ozzy. Don is replaced with Pete Way (this is post UFO and Fastway - Pete bailed on Fastway to get out of that situation and joins Ozzy, pre Waysted).

    So after Don is shown the door, that's when Randy comes back and Blackie switches to bass, and the 1st album line up aka CLASSIC W.A.S.P. line up is born. As you can see, a lot of songs were floating around pre W.A.S.P. and were used through out their career (ala Megadeth).

    Rik goes onto to form the band Sin. Sin is a big draw in L.A., but they get tired of Rik too and kick him out. They record an album, but Rik sues them to prevent them from using the name SIN (Nikki Sixx gets him a lawyer), and they release the album under the name Jag Wire. I like the album, it's kinda L.A. metal mixed w/ Rainbow. So Rik forms a new version of Sin using what's left of the NY band Alien, whose bassist Damien "The Beast" Bardot is arrested for murder! (You can't make this shit up) Alien had released a mini-lp called Cosmic Fantasy. 3/5 of Alien relocate to L.A., and the singer is Frank C. Starr. Frank later finds fame as the singer of The Four Horsemen. This line up never makes it as Rik claims they were on the verge and had done this demo with Dana Strum (the guy who finds Ozzy guitar players) but he fucked them over.

    Don Costa does an album with a band called M-80 and I don't think is ever heard from again.... but basically early W.A.S.P. consists of 7 people, the classic line up + Rik Fox, Don Costa and Gary Holland.

    W.A.S.P. had planned to release an anthology box set in 2009. According to Blackie it was going to feature 4 different versions of the 1st lp as they had done that many demos of it and he thought that was more representative of what they sounded like than what was released.

    ALSO, the classic W.A.S.P. line up almost got back together 4-5 years ago apparently. Jay Reynolds of Malice was on a radio show and said Malice was setting up a tour w/ W.A.S.P. that was supposed to include the 1st album line up. Apparently they were negotiating and it didn't happen. No idea if that was what led to W.A.S. (Where Angels Suffer), which included Chris, Randy and was supposed to include Tony - except all the material was from Randy's post W.A.S.P. band ANIMAL and I don't think Chris actually played on any of it. I think you can find Randy Piper's ANIMAL original demo that includes Rock (Like An Animal) on the net.
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