Demos [Heavy / Power] » Black Sabbath (UK) - The Rebel [Demo] (1969)
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    Artist: Black Sabbath
    Release: The Rebel, demo
    Genre: Heavy/ Traditional / Doom Metal
    Country: U.K.
    Bitrate: 320 kbit/s
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    1. The Rebel
    2. When I Came Down
    3. Thomas James
    4. Early One Morning Blues
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    http://i.imgur.com/IC3BQNJ.png?1?5247

    Some info about this:

    "01 The Rebel : This is the version that has been available on Youtube.

    02 When I Came Down (01:50) : Here's the first hoax of the bunch. This is the already widely available 53 seconds snippet repeated three times to make it seem longer. You can even heard the "click" at the 53 seconds mark where the track was pasted

    03 Thomas James : One of the several heavy jazz jam that has surfaced since the 90s with the "lost Sabbath tune" label on them. I hope some free jazz fan would be able to identify who recorded this, but this recording just screams fake. First of all, if this had only been a jam for fun in the studio, how comes we can hear two guitars ? Would they bother recording overdubs for a recording that was never supposed to see the light of day ? No, this is definitely a finished song, not an early demo. (and please, don't say that may have been an outtake. By 1969, Simpson had already quit playing for two or three years and it had already been decided Sabbath would be a Rock band, not a free jazz act. Why recording a over 8 minutes instrumental jam when he already thought the solo section of "Warning" was too long and had it cut ?) And remember that, if this really came from the early days, then the band was penniless at the time (remember they only had 12 hours to record the first album ?). So, if they rented a studio, then it was to record what could become their first single, or its B-Side (stuff like "Song for Jim", "The Rebel", "When I Came Down", "Wicked World" and the first unheard version of "The Wizard"), and Simpson was paying for this, with his own money. Can you imagine him wishing to record some jam just for fun ? No, this is definitely some jam band very much inspired by Black Sabbath, but no chance this is the real thing.

    04 Early One Morning Blues : Not a demo, but the only widely spread extract from the Dumfries 1969 show.

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    Jason, the info you posted is just one guy's opinion, that doesn't make it fact.
    I do agree with him though that 'When I Came Down' sounds pasted together, and is not the complete song.
    You need only compare it with the Norman Haines Band's version of the song and you'll hear that the version posted above is incomplete
    Norman Haines Band - When I Came Down (1971)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4K4akqMDeo
    When it comes to the track 'Thomas James' however i take issue with this guys position.
    If, as he states, this has been doing the rounds online since the 90's, and that "some free jazz fan would be able to identify who recorded this", why hasn't that happened?
    Is it really so unthinkable that Sabbath perhaps recorded this as a 'warmer upper' to get the levels etc at the beginning of a session or after recording the tracks they had prepared were already down on tape?
    The writer's assertion that "by 1969, Simpson had already quit playing for two or three years", doesn't hold water for me either.
    Whilst Simpson was no longer playing professionally in bands, there's nothing to suggest that he had abandoned the trumpet entirely.
    Why would any musician devote years to mastering an instrument only to abandon it entirely just because he decided he no longer wanted to pursue playing music as a profession?
    The doomy end section of the song screams Iommi to me, i just don't know why the writer is so adamant that it cant be a lost Sabbath track.
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    canadaspaceman wrote:I remember this, was really excited and played it to death a few years ago.

    I like old Black Sabbath a lot, and have a lot of concerts, but am not as much of an expert compared to other fans.

    Does anybody here know if there are more of the early, early years/unreleased tracks?

    There are always bands with at least one member who keeps a meticulous record of what + where something was recorded, when they played, keeps gig flyers & photos, etc, etc. and must also have held onto old unreleased material.
    A prime example is the original Ozzy lineup rehearsals/demos tapes that bassist Bob Daisley will always hold until Sharon Osbourne pays what Bob thinks is fair for them, considering all the times she screwed him over.


    There's a huge & very interesting article about Sabbath's very early (unreleased) recordings here:
    http://www.bigtakeover.com/essays/black ... recordings
    There's also this 7" single released in 1975 which although it's not a Sabbath release features Ozzy on vocals:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASHuUC3DJAc
    Tony Iommi also did some moonlighting from his day job, playing on 2 tracks on Bobby Harrison's 1972 'Funkist' LP:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvHtl6F7F7k
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQOrs5HkJ_w
    Iommi produced the album 'Orexis Of Death' by Necromandus in 1973 also playing flute or recorder on this song:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWZdh9Q0WgQ
    Hope this was of some interest.
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    Thanks for the info Riptorn.

    canadaspaceman wrote:Does anybody here know if there are more of the early, early years/unreleased tracks?


    Mythology (Tony Iommi & Bill Ward's Pre-Black Sabbath band) (UK) - Queens Hotel, Silloth U.K 13.07.1968 [Bootleg]
    viewtopic.php?f=118&t=14372&hilit=pre+black

    Song For Jim:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... QmGOHDSo74
    A Song For Jim (Riff): http://www.4shared.com/mp3/ssV4psLCce/A ... Riff_.html?

    Earth (Pre Black Sabbath) - Unknown Demo:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2DLbc9N ... 45&index=6

    Early Black Sabbath? - Blue Suede Shoes (1970?):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBmR1VASRv4
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    canadaspaceman wrote:Excellent info, thanks guys ! (yes!)
    I might have that Mythology gig, and a concert video with Blue Suede Shoes *Paris 1970 ?


    'Blue Suede Shoes' is on Sabbath's 'Black Mass' release, (it includes both the audio & the video).
    The disc is made up of the band's early 70s performances on the German 'Beat Club' TV show.
    Here are another couple of little known Sabs rarities:

    Black Sabbath - Sometimes I'm Happy (1975)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chVO_46iENY

    Black Sabbath with Dave Walker - Junior's Eyes (1977)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ITDbIvjegg
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