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Thanks for clarifying. The reason I reacted was because most will only read phoenix = bootleg.
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demonhellrogues wrote:The same guys should laso be behind more of the above mentioned bootleg labels (reborn classics, forgotten gems, forgotten metal, they also released stuff with Old Metal label and a few bootlegs with the unisound labels's logo. I've also seen dozens of cd's that were actually originally pressed by major labels released fro those same guys if i'm not mistaken with the same layout - booklet etc as the original cds but usually different or no matrix numbers and shity quality that usually will skip and / or don't play at all etc, some cd's i know that are bootleged this way are:Heretic, Defiance, Mortal Sin, Sacred Warrior, Blind Illusion and more)


Hi Demonhellrogues, do you happen to know if Unisound Records themselves are boot-company, or is someone just pressing bootlegs with their logo (so that they themselves are legit)? Just by random I found this interview where band member says that certain Unisound release is bootleg they've never been credited/heard of. I also have AxeMaster's Death Before Dishonor (demos compilation) which looks and smells like a boot and it has Unisound logo on it (falsely pressed under their logo or falsely pressed by them?). Says its greek label.

"7. Here in greece, Unisound records had re-released your "Rites of the Black Mass" album. Is this a bootleg? What was your co-operation with that label?
Vincent Crowley : What? That is a total bootleg! I never did a deal with them! Fuckers! Burn their business down!"


Discogs lists it without mention that it would be a boot but then again discogs isn't 100% reliable.

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Well gravedigger84, i'm not sure about it... I also have this Axe Master cd + some more bootleg cds with the Unisound logo (Apollo Ra, Steel Assassin, Nigel Foxxe's Inc...), i got all of them with the pre-mentioned magazines... I also got from True Metal magazine ''Defender - Remaining Tales'' cd, basically a compilation that includes ''City Ad Mortis'', the 1984 demo and ''Journey To The Unexpected'' single plus the previously unreleased track ''Labour Liberates''. Take a look at the back of the booklet:
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Seemed like a legit release (at least if this is truly written by the band... but wasn't it supposed to be released by cbs? at least according to metal archives...) Something that i'm sure about is that Unisound have released a lot of legit albums. Now with these bootlegs there are many possibilities. It could be that Unisound releases both legit albums and bootlegs , it could be that they are not responsible at all (others releasing these bootlegs under the labels logo), but there's also a rumor i've heard that i think of as the most possible scenario, that the guy behind the bootleg labels from Greece that was mentioned before (and is behind of all of these releases and magazines etc...) works or were working for Unisound and released these bootlegs under the label without the rest of them knowing that these were bootlegs or that are released at all...

I'm not sure about anything, but even if it's not the labels fault i would be suspicious with their releases (especially compilations of old and rare/unreleased matterial or out of print 80's private metal).

But there are so many bootlegs here in Greece and that guy seems to be connected to almost every one of them in one way or another...

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Probably should kindly ask Joe Sims about that AxeMaster's cd I got by e-mail for fun and see if we get a response.. :) In case that e-mail in the booklet is valid that is.. oh wait I may have valid one in my e-mail. Well I let you know if something clears up.

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Btw, is there anyone here that have ever seen at least one of those Unisound bootlegs for sale at a known store that only has for sale cds directly from the labels? I've never seen one (except from second hand stores, internet etc, places where anyone can sell anything...).
Unisound is a well known label with wide (correct me if i'm wrong) distribution and they're legit releases can be found at stores and mailorders... Isn't it a little suspicious too?
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Atlantis Metal wrote:Anyone got any thoughts on Krescendo Records? Have heard there's been some issues about their legitimacy. I've bought a few of their CD releases recently and have been disappointed with the sound quality, such as Sword's 'Metalized' and 'Law of Devil's Land' by Loudness. Their A II Z Witch of Berkeley 2 disc release was the worst of the lot though. I'm pretty sure the 1st disc is actually the same release as the Reborn Classics bootleg from the early 90's (same bonus tracks and running order), but the version I got was full of 'clicks' as if the source tape was damaged, although I don't know if it was just the copy I got or if all copies were like that.

Krescendo Records is actually Majestic Rock Records under a different name everything they release is a bootleg copied from whatever CD they could find this is obvious because most these re-releases sound like crap and these artists were never involved in the entire thing.

Another one to add is Wounded Bird Records these releases are not supported by any of these artists on listed on their website and is just a way for Warner Music Group to recoup all the money they lost on these releases when they originality came out.

Thanks for clarifying that. I noticed that Amazon actually stock some of their releases (not marketplace sellers but Amazon itself), so they obviously have quite a bit of weight behind them in terms of distribution.
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I Found the Information on the Metal Archives here is the Link to Their Page on the MA to Personoly Check http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Flames/11532
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Heavy Thrashhead wrote:I Found the Information on the Metal Archives here is the Link to Their Page on the MA to Personoly Check http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Flames/11532


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Bootlegged by Unisound in 2001 together with the "Last Prophecy" album on 1 CD."
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Unisound is a label that released a lot of bootlegs because they were too lazy to contact band-members to get permission. They also released some legit cds (paying their artists almost zero) but also a lot of bootlegs. One of the guys from Unisound then opened up his own pressing plant in Greece, pressing bootlegs-only - these are all those greek bootlegs that just list the name of the band/album on the inner matrix - sometimes misspelt - countless of these floating around - the EXE's, the ESCAPE, far too many to name ...

There are many bootleg places in Russia too - CD-Maximum used to make lots of bootlegs before they grew as an official label - now as far as I know, their cds are all official, but in the past they were heavily involved in Russian bootleg scene ...
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I've Been Looking at This on Amazon for a While and It's Hexx's No Escape & Under the Spell on Both CD's

I Have One Single Problem Couse on the Metal Archives There are No Information nor Background of There Being a CD Reisue Hast to ba a Bootleg Couse Also the Label is Hexx Music (No Label By That Name)

Link: http://www.amazon.com/No-Escape-Under-T ... +the+spell Check Out for Yourself
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Some info here:
http://www.heartofmetal.net/t15915-question-about-hexx
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/unauth ... pell_2on1/

Quote: The two of them are on a "2 on 1" CD bootleg from Greece and 'Under the Spell' is also on a Split CD Bootleg with the NIGHTCRAWLER release 'Soilder in Time'.

MATRIX: HXX C009
LABEL: HEXX MUSIC RECORDS

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So The One on Amazon Could Be the Greek Bootleg But it's Kinda Pricey for me But it's a Bootleg so i May Hunt Down the Actaul Vinyl at Some Used Record Store That has 'em for a Decent Price Couse Their Way too Expensive online thanks for the Information Kinda Wondered if it Was a Bootleg

Edit: Oh Yeah That Looks Like a Bootleg Very Cheap Looking One too, Defitnaly Not Paying $30 for That El Cheap-o Piece of Crap Bootleg
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Joe Sims of AxeMaster took time to reply question about that AxeMaster's Death Before Dishonor CD that has very bootlegg'ish looks and demo songs in it never before released in any official release. It clears things up a bit. Anyone interested in it read the following:

"Hello!
This is Joe Sims. Not bothering me at all, I appreciate your letter! To answer your question, "Death Before Dishonor" is not exactly a bootleg and was kind of authorized by us. Let me explain. Around the time of that release (and the "Axemaster/The Awakening 1985-1995" CD) Axemaster was not an active band and I had no idea we would ever start it back up again. Panos of Unisound WAS a friend of mine and he asked if I would consider letting him use those songs for promo CDs (I wrote the songs and own all the rights) and I agreed since the stuff had never been available on disc before. The deal was that Unisound would produce the "1985-1995" and "Death Before Dishonor" CDs (including all the outside and inside packaging) and would use them to promote their magazine "True Metal" (they were packaged with the magazine as free bonus discs). I got a bunch of free copies as payment. I NEVER authorized either one to be sold as a normal release but as I'm sure you know they have been sold all over the place. The whole situation has been both bad and good. We never got any money from them and of course you never like to be ripped-off, but at the same time it kept Axemaster's name active and increased our fan base which turned out to be very important since we re-formed the band. So they are not technically bootlegs since Unisound was authorized to produce the discs, but they were not authorized to sell them. I hope this answers your question, it was a strange situation for sure!!!

Joe"


Thanks for your time Joe.
(See the pictures of the CD in few posts upwards from this one)

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I Have Been Looking at This for 3 Years Wanted to Know if This is a Boot http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-METAL-VOL-02 ... 1c27d230b4

Edit: Damn it, it is a Bootleg, Found a Cheap Copy of One of These US Metal Bootlegs on MusicStack for $16 Not Bad But it Has the Warzwolf on it But Also Like to Know When These Were Made if These Were Made Around in the Early '1990's it Would Be a Little Better Couse the Sound Quality Would Not Sound Like Shit Couse it Would Be from a Better Source
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Dunno if this has already been said...but there was a legit "Hot Metal Records" back in 1981 who released Megaton's "Aluminium Lady" 7"...it's the only release they ever put out, though.
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Here is Another One to Add into the Bootleg List

Shifty Records, They Released Black Death's Full Length in 2000 With 5 Bonus Tracks

Tracks 8 & 9 are from the Single That Was Released Along With the Record
Tracks 10 & 11 are from the Cleveland Metal Compilation
& Track 12 is a Live Recording

Proof: http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Bl ... Death/8654

Edit: Back in 2010 or 2011 i Downloaded the Bootleg and from Thaughts it Has Good Sound But There is Like Clicking and Glitchy Crap Going on Some of the Tracks and the Last Track Wich is a Live Version of Breaking the Chains of Hell it's Way too Loud it Sounds Like That it Was Recorded out of a Headphone Set The Drums are too Loud in the Mix and the Guitars are Buried and the Vocals are Extremly Loud the Whole Thing Sucks So it Diserves to Be up Here in the List of Bootleggers
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I'm a little late to this discussion, but I noticed the inquiry about Blitzkrieg's "Unholy Terror." The CD's legit. I own a copy with Made in France on it. When Blitzkrieg came to play at Metal Meltdown IV in Jersey, my friend John who used to own a music store had the band stay with him for a few days when their flight back home was delayed. In a way to say thanks, Tony Liddel, the guitarist, gave him a number of copies of "Unholy Terror." I bought one from John. So unless Tony Liddel was peddling boots, I would have to say it's legit.

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Heavy Thrashhead wrote:I Have Been Looking at This for 3 Years Wanted to Know if This is a Boot http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-METAL-VOL-02 ... 1c27d230b4

Edit: Damn it, it is a Bootleg, Found a Cheap Copy of One of These US Metal Bootlegs on MusicStack for $16 Not Bad But it Has the Warzwolf on it But Also Like to Know When These Were Made if These Were Made Around in the Early '1990's it Would Be a Little Better Couse the Sound Quality Would Not Sound Like Shit Couse it Would Be from a Better Source


Guys chill out!! Don't buy this shit, especially for high prices. Here in Greece exist in huge quantities, can be found for 2-5 Euros and they are utter crap regarding quality. The release dates are all fake (manifactured/distributed in early 2000's) as the "big boss" was trying to cover his tracks (in the likes of the Reborn Classics pioneers). The two biggest greek record collectors were involved in this (either directly or indirectly). A huge scam that harmed immensly the reputation of greek metal and created a new generation of metalheads believing that if it is rare it must be good. I'll repeat: Don't reward this guys by buying their shit, especially in high prices. The high resale value will encourage more and more to buy bootlegs, and more and more to create them. I still cann't believe the price this "Legend-From the Fjords", bootleg CD has been sold!!! (around 300$!!!)

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Screams bootleg from miles away. These comp/splits are pure shit in quality.
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After Hearing all the Comotion About How Bad the Sound Quality is On These Bootleg Splits i'm Going to Track Down the Actaul Releases and Forget Getting These Peice of Garbage Bootleg Splits
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